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SubjectAuthor
* Newbie questionEli
`* Newbie questionJesse Rehmer
 `* Newbie questionEli
  `* Newbie questionJulien_ÉLIE
   `- Newbie questionEli

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Re: Newbie question

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From: eliistheman@gmail.com (Eli)
Newsgroups: news.admin.peering
Subject: Re: Newbie question
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 by: Eli - Sat, 25 Mar 2023 10:41 UTC

Hi,

The messages I download via pullnews are sent to the peers. How can that be
prevented?

I can temporarily block the newsgroup in "newsfeeds", but that has its
drawbacks. Can this also be done differently?

Re: Newbie question

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From: jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com (Jesse Rehmer)
Newsgroups: news.admin.peering
Subject: Re: Newbie question
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2023 11:40:39 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Jesse Rehmer - Sat, 25 Mar 2023 11:40 UTC

On Mar 25, 2023 at 5:41:42 AM CDT, "Eli" <eliistheman@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The messages I download via pullnews are sent to the peers. How can that be
> prevented?
>
> I can temporarily block the newsgroup in "newsfeeds", but that has its
> drawbacks. Can this also be done differently?

Without disabling newsfeeds entirely while using pullnews an option is to have
pullnews add a fake Path entry that you configure your each of your newsfeeds
to exclude.

From the pullnews manpage:
-F fakehop
Prepend fakehop as a host to the Path header field body of articles
fed.

For example, if I use "pullnews -F injection-host" it will prepend
"injection-host" to the Path. Then in my newsfeeds file for each feed I can
exclude the "injection-host" path from each feed so it will not be fed to the
peers.

feed/usenet.blueworldhosting.com,injection-host\
:*\
:Ap,Tm\
:innfeed!

Re: Newbie question

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From: eliistheman@gmail.com (Eli)
Newsgroups: news.admin.peering
Subject: Re: Newbie question
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 by: Eli - Sat, 25 Mar 2023 13:12 UTC

On 25 Mar 2023 at 12:40:39 CET, "Jesse Rehmer"
<jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> wrote:

> Without disabling newsfeeds entirely while using pullnews an option is to have
> pullnews add a fake Path entry that you configure your each of your newsfeeds
> to exclude.

Hi Jesse,

Thank you for your clear answer and example.

Another question:
How can I delete all messages up to a certain date in a newsgroup immediately.
The messages were received via pullnews, so the date received is the same for
all messages.

Re: Newbie question

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From: iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid (Julien ÉLIE)
Newsgroups: news.admin.peering
Subject: Re: Newbie question
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2023 19:11:26 +0200
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 by: Julien ÉLIE - Thu, 30 Mar 2023 17:11 UTC

Hi Eli,

> Another question:
> How can I delete all messages up to a certain date in a newsgroup immediately.
> The messages were received via pullnews, so the date received is the same for
> all messages.

When you say "up to a certain date", do you mean before or after?
If it is before, then just use expire.ctl and run news.daily so as to
expire articles.
Verify that you do not use the "-p" option in the expireoverflags and
flags options of the news.daily command. (By default, arrival time is
used, and "-p" switches to the actual date in Date header fields).

If it is after, then it is a bit more complicated...
Your history file in <pathdb> contains lines with several timestamps.
You can find the storage tokens of articles arrived after March, 1st
with the following commands:

% convdate -n '01 Mar 2023 00:00 +0000'
1677628800

% perl -ne 'chomp; our ($hash, $timestamps, $_) = split " "; my
($arrived, $expires, $posted) = split("~", $timestamps); print "$_\n" if
$_ and $arrived >= 1677628800' history

Pipe the result to "sm -r" to remove these articles.

--
Julien ÉLIE

« Les amis de la vérité sont ceux qui la cherchent, et non ceux qui se
vantent de l'avoir trouvée. » (Condorcet)

Re: Newbie question

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Newsgroups: news.admin.peering
Subject: Re: Newbie question
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 by: Eli - Thu, 30 Mar 2023 20:02 UTC

On 30 Mar 2023 at 19:11:26 CEST, "Julien ÉLIE"
<iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid> wrote:

> When you say "up to a certain date", do you mean before or after?
> If it is before, then just use expire.ctl and run news.daily so as to
> expire articles.
> Verify that you do not use the "-p" option in the expireoverflags and
> flags options of the news.daily command. (By default, arrival time is
> used, and "-p" switches to the actual date in Date header fields).
>
>
> If it is after, then it is a bit more complicated...
> Your history file in <pathdb> contains lines with several timestamps.
> You can find the storage tokens of articles arrived after March, 1st
> with the following commands:
>
> % convdate -n '01 Mar 2023 00:00 +0000'
> 1677628800
>
> % perl -ne 'chomp; our ($hash, $timestamps, $_) = split " "; my
> ($arrived, $expires, $posted) = split("~", $timestamps); print "$_\n" if
> $_ and $arrived >= 1677628800' history
>
> Pipe the result to "sm -r" to remove these articles.

Wow super! I'll archive this one.


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