Yet another nntp service is borked with no word from its owner.

The Rocksolid Usenet / NNTP servers are no longer authenticating to
allow posts.

There is no word from the admin yet on what is going on. In fact the
admin has yet to acknowledge that he is still alive.

AIOE went down with no word from the admin for weeks.

Mixmin went down with no word from the admin for weeks.

Rocksolid went down with no word from the admin for weeks.

The admins of these three services have vanished without a trace or a
word about their vanishing services.

Hmmm....

Why would an administrator make no statement acknowledging the status of
a service that has gone down or is broken?

Vaniko wrote:
>
> Yet another nntp service is borked with no word from its owner.
>
> The Rocksolid Usenet / NNTP servers are no longer authenticating to
> allow posts.
>
> There is no word from the admin yet on what is going on. In fact the
> admin has yet to acknowledge that he is still alive.
>
> AIOE went down with no word from the admin for weeks.
>
> Mixmin went down with no word from the admin for weeks.
>
> Rocksolid went down with no word from the admin for weeks.
>
> The admins of these three services have vanished without a trace or a
> word about their vanishing services.
>
> Hmmm....
>
> Why would an administrator make no statement acknowledging the status of
> a service that has gone down or is broken?

You're not owed anything.
Now stop bleating.

In news.admin.peering William Stickers <bill.stickers@innocent.com> wrote:
: Vaniko wrote:
: >
: > Yet another nntp service is borked with no word from its owner.
: >
: > The Rocksolid Usenet / NNTP servers are no longer authenticating to
: > allow posts.
: >
: > There is no word from the admin yet on what is going on. In fact the
: > admin has yet to acknowledge that he is still alive.
: >
: > AIOE went down with no word from the admin for weeks.
: >
: > Mixmin went down with no word from the admin for weeks.
: >
: > Rocksolid went down with no word from the admin for weeks.
: >
: > The admins of these three services have vanished without a trace or a
: > word about their vanishing services.
: >
: > Hmmm....
: >
: > Why would an administrator make no statement acknowledging the status of
: > a service that has gone down or is broken?

: You're not owed anything.
: Now stop bleating.

Surprised to see AIOE as MIA.

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The Doctor wrote:
> In William Stickers wrote:
> : Vaniko wrote:
> : >
> : > Yet another nntp service is borked with no word from its owner.
> : >
> : > The Rocksolid Usenet / NNTP servers are no longer authenticating to
> : > allow posts.
> : >
> : > There is no word from the admin yet on what is going on. In fact the
> : > admin has yet to acknowledge that he is still alive.
> : >
> : > AIOE went down with no word from the admin for weeks.
> : >
> : > Mixmin went down with no word from the admin for weeks.
> : >
> : > Rocksolid went down with no word from the admin for weeks.
> : >
> : > The admins of these three services have vanished without a trace or a
> : > word about their vanishing services.
> : >
> : > Hmmm....
> : >
> : > Why would an administrator make no statement acknowledging the status of
> : > a service that has gone down or is broken?
>
> : You're not owed anything.
> : Now stop bleating.
>
> Surprised to see AIOE as MIA.

FWIW unofficial usenet rumor alleges aioe's in process of recovering
from a hardware breakdown.

Danke,

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She set out one day In a relative way And returned on the previous night.

Am 04.03.2023 um 03:44:53 Uhr schrieb Vaniko:

> Yet another nntp service is borked with no word from its owner.

There are some words from him:
Message-ID: <7861f1bd07c1666493a8d9458faaf828@news.novabbs.org>

> Mixmin went down with no word from the admin for weeks.

Mixmin isn't down. Posting via port 563 works, but it is delayed.
119 is broken.

On 10779 September 1993, Marco Moock wrote:

> Mixmin isn't down. Posting via port 563 works, but it is delayed.
> 119 is broken.

Mixmin stopped taking feeds on January 27th.

news-in.mixmin.net
(remote status: ``Interrupted system call writing creating overview file -- throttling'')

so it's presently a posting only server at best.

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Am 06.03.2023 um 15:23:42 Uhr schrieb Ray Banana:

> Mixmin stopped taking feeds on January 27th.
>
> news-in.mixmin.net
> (remote status: ``Interrupted system call writing creating overview
> file -- throttling'')

That is on port 119. 563 works for posting.

Did you try feeding over this port?

On 10779 September 1993, Marco Moock wrote:

>> (remote status: ``Interrupted system call writing creating overview
>> file -- throttling'')
> That is on port 119. 563 works for posting.
> Did you try feeding over this port?

Feeding and reading/posting are entirely different protocols
handled by different software modules and requiring specific
access rights.

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On 3/6/23 11:59, Marco Moock wrote:
> Am 06.03.2023 um 15:23:42 Uhr schrieb Ray Banana:
>
>> Mixmin stopped taking feeds on January 27th.
>>
>> news-in.mixmin.net
>> (remote status: ``Interrupted system call writing creating overview
>> file -- throttling'')
>
> That is on port 119. 563 works for posting.
>
> Did you try feeding over this port?
>

Posted messages don't propagate. Some don't show in the local feed.

These threads are arguments for shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic.

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Laser Chicken Division

Laser Chicken <laser@chicken.invalid> wrote:

> On 3/6/23 11:59, Marco Moock wrote:
> > Am 06.03.2023 um 15:23:42 Uhr schrieb Ray Banana:
> >
> >> Mixmin stopped taking feeds on January 27th.
> >>
> >> news-in.mixmin.net
> >> (remote status: ``Interrupted system call writing creating overview
> >> file -- throttling'')
> >
> > That is on port 119. 563 works for posting.
> >
> > Did you try feeding over this port?
> >
>
> Posted messages don't propagate. Some don't show in the local feed.
>
> These threads are arguments for shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic.
>

'And the band played on'. Enjoy what's left of Usenet while it's
still going. It'll die soon enough, when the last Usenetter falls
off his perch.

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On 3/6/23 20:08, Sn!pe wrote:
> Laser Chicken <laser@chicken.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 3/6/23 11:59, Marco Moock wrote:
>>> Am 06.03.2023 um 15:23:42 Uhr schrieb Ray Banana:
>>>
>>>> Mixmin stopped taking feeds on January 27th.
>>>>
>>>> news-in.mixmin.net
>>>> (remote status: ``Interrupted system call writing creating overview
>>>> file -- throttling'')
>>>
>>> That is on port 119. 563 works for posting.
>>>
>>> Did you try feeding over this port?
>>>
>>
>> Posted messages don't propagate. Some don't show in the local feed.
>>
>> These threads are arguments for shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic.
>>
>
> 'And the band played on'. Enjoy what's left of Usenet while it's
> still going. It'll die soon enough, when the last Usenetter falls
> off his perch.

You creep around Usenet like a demented dentist with a can of ether.

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Am 06.03.2023 schrieb Laser Chicken <laser@chicken.invalid>:

> Posted messages don't propagate. Some don't show in the local feed.

I managed to post to Mixmin and it propagated to solani.org.
Maybe some peerings are faulty.

It also does not apply to very post that has been submitted via Mixmin,
some seem to go to /dev/null, but not all.

On 07 Mar 2023, Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> posted some
news:tu75eg$apl4$4@dont-email.me:

> Am 06.03.2023 schrieb Laser Chicken <laser@chicken.invalid>:
>
>> Posted messages don't propagate. Some don't show in the local feed.
>
> I managed to post to Mixmin and it propagated to solani.org.
> Maybe some peerings are faulty.
>
> It also does not apply to very post that has been submitted via Mixmin,
> some seem to go to /dev/null, but not all.

kensi's krap koes to /dev/null

Am 07.03.2023 um 11:59:28 Uhr schrieb Marco Moock:

> Am 06.03.2023 schrieb Laser Chicken <laser@chicken.invalid>:
>
> > Posted messages don't propagate. Some don't show in the local feed.
> >
>
> I managed to post to Mixmin and it propagated to solani.org.
> Maybe some peerings are faulty.
>
> It also does not apply to very post that has been submitted via
> Mixmin, some seem to go to /dev/null, but not all.

This is a posting from Monday, it arrived on solani.org.

Message-ID: <tu48di$2ead8$1@news.mixmin.net>

On Sat, 4 Mar 2023 03:44:53 -0600, Vaniko <vanishing@point.invalid>
wrote:

>Yet another nntp service is borked with no word from its owner.
>
>The Rocksolid Usenet / NNTP servers are no longer authenticating to
>allow posts.
>
>There is no word from the admin yet on what is going on. In fact the
>admin has yet to acknowledge that he is still alive.
>
>AIOE went down with no word from the admin for weeks.
>
>Mixmin went down with no word from the admin for weeks.
>
>Rocksolid went down with no word from the admin for weeks.
>
>The admins of these three services have vanished without a trace or a
>word about their vanishing services.
>
>Hmmm....
>
>Why would an administrator make no statement acknowledging the status of
>a service that has gone down or is broken?

Because their systems are broke and they CAN'T tell anyone?
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Am 08.03.2023 schrieb Ed Rhodes <ejay1118@yahoo.con>:

> On Sat, 4 Mar 2023 03:44:53 -0600, Vaniko <vanishing@point.invalid>
> wrote:

> >Why would an administrator make no statement acknowledging the
> >status of a service that has gone down or is broken?
>
> Because their systems are broke and they CAN'T tell anyone?

They can. They can user other free NNTP servers to post to groups.

Vaniko wrote:

> Yet another nntp service is borked with no word from its owner.

> The Rocksolid Usenet / NNTP servers are no longer authenticating to
> allow posts.

> There is no word from the admin yet on what is going on. In fact the
> admin has yet to acknowledge that he is still alive.

I know this is an old message to reply to, but I just saw it so why not.

I'm the admin of Rocksolid, etc. When you posted this I was in a medically induced coma following a major surgery that was preceded by another major surgery, followed by 8 months of chemotherapy. There were several months where I could do nothing to administrate anything. (There were weeks that I have no memory of at all).

I assume whatever the issue was with the servers resolved itself, as people have been using them since.

> Why would an administrator make no statement acknowledging the status of
> a service that has gone down or is broken?

Death?

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Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com> wrote at 01:07 this Saturday (GMT):
> Vaniko wrote:
>
>> Yet another nntp service is borked with no word from its owner.
>
>> The Rocksolid Usenet / NNTP servers are no longer authenticating to
>> allow posts.
>
>> There is no word from the admin yet on what is going on. In fact the
>> admin has yet to acknowledge that he is still alive.
>
> I know this is an old message to reply to, but I just saw it so why not.
>
> I'm the admin of Rocksolid, etc. When you posted this I was in a medically induced coma following a major surgery that was preceded by another major surgery, followed by 8 months of chemotherapy. There were several months where I could do nothing to administrate anything. (There were weeks that I have no memory of at all).

Oh no!! Are you alright?

> I assume whatever the issue was with the servers resolved itself, as people have been using them since.
>
>> Why would an administrator make no statement acknowledging the status of
>> a service that has gone down or is broken?
>
> Death?

That would be really sad.
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On 3/8/24 19:07, Retro Guy wrote:
> Death?

I'm glad that yours was only a near death experience and not an actual
death experience.

Welcome back to the land of Usenet, where some people are happy to see
you -- Hi -- and others want to complain about you.

--
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candycanearter07 wrote:

> Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com> wrote at 01:07 this Saturday (GMT):
>> Vaniko wrote:
>>
>>> Yet another nntp service is borked with no word from its owner.
>>
>>> The Rocksolid Usenet / NNTP servers are no longer authenticating to
>>> allow posts.
>>
>>> There is no word from the admin yet on what is going on. In fact the
>>> admin has yet to acknowledge that he is still alive.
>>
>> I know this is an old message to reply to, but I just saw it so why not.
>>
>> I'm the admin of Rocksolid, etc. When you posted this I was in a medically induced coma following a major surgery that was preceded by another major surgery, followed by 8 months of chemotherapy. There were several months where I could do nothing to administrate anything. (There were weeks that I have no memory of at all).

> Oh no!! Are you alright?

I'm good, thx :) Last test (biopsy) about 10 days ago said negative and I feel pretty good. It's a crazy way to retire early, lol. Note to everyone, you really don't want pancreatic cancer, find something better to have :)

I've thought for a while to post something in advance in case I disappear forever so people know to not expect any further administration and when I saw this post I figured, why not just reply here.

Anyway, if all continues as it's going, I may be around for a while longer just to create software bugs and the occasional false positive nocem :)

--
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Grant Taylor wrote:

> On 3/8/24 19:07, Retro Guy wrote:
>> Death?

> I'm glad that yours was only a near death experience and not an actual
> death experience.

> Welcome back to the land of Usenet, where some people are happy to see
> you -- Hi -- and others want to complain about you.

Thank you :)

It just wouldn't be usenet without complaints!

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Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com> wrote:

> Grant Taylor wrote:
>
> > On 3/8/24 19:07, Retro Guy wrote:
> >> Death?
>
> > I'm glad that yours was only a near death experience and not an actual
> > death experience.
>
> > Welcome back to the land of Usenet, where some people are happy to see
> > you -- Hi -- and others want to complain about you.
>
> Thank you :)
>
> It just wouldn't be usenet without complaints!
>

Give them a full refund!

It's good to hear that you've come through your ordeal;
I'm glad that you're still alive and kicking.

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My pet rock Gordon just is.

Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com> wrote:

>. . .

>I'm the admin of Rocksolid, etc. When you posted this I was in a
>medically induced coma following a major surgery that was preceded by
>another major surgery, followed by 8 months of chemotherapy. There were
>several months where I could do nothing to administrate anything. (There
>were weeks that I have no memory of at all).

I'm sorry to hear, belatedly, that you were ill. I hope you make a full
recovery, soonest.

>. . .

Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com> wrote at 01:45 this Saturday (GMT):
> candycanearter07 wrote:
>
>> Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com> wrote at 01:07 this Saturday (GMT):
>>> Vaniko wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yet another nntp service is borked with no word from its owner.
>>>
>>>> The Rocksolid Usenet / NNTP servers are no longer authenticating to
>>>> allow posts.
>>>
>>>> There is no word from the admin yet on what is going on. In fact the
>>>> admin has yet to acknowledge that he is still alive.
>>>
>>> I know this is an old message to reply to, but I just saw it so why not.
>>>
>>> I'm the admin of Rocksolid, etc. When you posted this I was in a medically induced coma following a major surgery that was preceded by another major surgery, followed by 8 months of chemotherapy. There were several months where I could do nothing to administrate anything. (There were weeks that I have no memory of at all).
>
>> Oh no!! Are you alright?
>
> I'm good, thx :) Last test (biopsy) about 10 days ago said negative and I feel pretty good. It's a crazy way to retire early, lol. Note to everyone, you really don't want pancreatic cancer, find something better to have :)

OK good! I wasn't planning to get cancer lol

> I've thought for a while to post something in advance in case I disappear forever so people know to not expect any further administration and when I saw this post I figured, why not just reply here.
>
> Anyway, if all continues as it's going, I may be around for a while longer just to create software bugs and the occasional false positive nocem :)

Cheers!
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Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com> wrote on 9 Mar 2024:

> Vaniko wrote on 4 Mar 2023:
>
>> Yet another nntp service is borked with no word from its owner.
>
>> The Rocksolid Usenet / NNTP servers are no longer authenticating to
>> allow posts.
>
>> There is no word from the admin yet on what is going on. In fact the
>> admin has yet to acknowledge that he is still alive.
>
> I know this is an old message to reply to, but I just saw it so why
> not.
>
> I'm the admin of Rocksolid, etc. When you posted this I was in a
> medically induced coma following a major surgery that was preceded by
> another major surgery, followed by 8 months of chemotherapy. There
> were several months where I could do nothing to administrate
> anything. (There were weeks that I have no memory of at all).
>
> I assume whatever the issue was with the servers resolved itself, as
> people have been using them since.
>
>> Why would an administrator make no statement acknowledging the status of
>> a service that has gone down or is broken?
>
> Death?

Yep. Tough to login to your computer to compose an announcement of your
death after getting squashed by a semi, drowned at sea by the Perfect
Storm, or zapped to a crispy walking dead by lightning.

Other causes can be disinterest, getting busy with real life, operator
disappeared (moved, kidnapped, disappeared behind the Great Firewall),
ran out of money for his altruistic ventures, served an NSL but decided
to quit rather than lie to users about logging, or a disability that
prevents doing much of anything.

The owner of Spamgourmet (Josh) had a debilitating disease that made it
harder and harder to work on his anonymizing e-mail service until he got
hospitalized during which his son tried to take over. The son (Josiah)
was woefully unprepared for the task, did an unnecessary update that
killed some features of the service, would announce only in the web
forums but never participated there to see problem reports, and the son
eventually gave up. It wasn't his hobby or personal project, anyway.
He did it to help Dad. Dad died.
https://bbs.spamgourmet.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1799&sid=6ae6d671a575dd8defc83224e7c82930
Son gave up on Spamgourmet. Spamgourmet became a zombied service: works
a little bit, but too crippled and unreliable. I had to find something
else that was similar (an aliasing e-mail service, not just an e-mail
forwarding service), and found AnonAddy.

I remember using Albasani until that operator died. See:
http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3C1kn498q.o2v802173ewlcN%25board%40big-8.org%3E
Someone (don't remember who) picked up the tab (effort & money) for a
while to keep albasani.net alive, but it eventually died, too.

Did anyone figure out for sure why AIOE died back around February 2023?