https://www.techradar.com/phones/researcher-compares-android-and-ios-security-and-theres-a-clear-loser

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Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> In aus.computers Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>> Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> "If an app is contacting a server located in a country like Russia
>>> or China, that could mean your data is accessible to authorities of
>>> other bodies in those nations. Once the data has landed in another
>>> country, it can potentially come under the purview of that state."
>>>
>>> Unless you foresee a visit to or imminent invasion from those
>>> contries, I don't see how that's much of a concern to anyone in
>>> Australia. It's all the better that those "contacts" aren't
>>> collected by agencies that actually do have power in this country
>>> actually.
>> what about identity theft?
> By the Russian or Chinese governments? Seems unlikely, but if the
> apps are sneeking ID information off to unintended people then it's
> a serious concern regardless of where the data immediately goes. I
> don't think the article is claiming that sort of data is being
> sent, just typical user analytics info.
>

Ok

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On 3/05/2024 8:26 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>
> https://www.techradar.com/phones/researcher-compares-android-and-ios-security-and-theres-a-clear-loser
>
"If an app is contacting a server located in a country like Russia or
China, that could mean your data is accessible to authorities of other
bodies in those nations. Once the data has landed in another country, it
can potentially come under the purview of that state."

Wow, I can just imagine how interested the Russian and Chinese
governments must be in the doings of a retired vendor of consumer grade
AV gear. Stick with that iPhone, you're much safer, although heaven
knows what Apple is doing with the information in those 1845 calls a day.

Have a nice day.

In aus.computers Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>
> https://www.techradar.com/phones/researcher-compares-android-and-ios-security-and-theres-a-clear-loser

What a load of nonsense, they don't analyse what's sent, and admit
that apps on both phones do contact servers for companies like
Google that harvest user data, so the apps on the Apple phone might
just hoard more data and send it in one big "contact" instead of
lots of little ones. Either way the result is the same.

"If an app is contacting a server located in a country like Russia
or China, that could mean your data is accessible to authorities of
other bodies in those nations. Once the data has landed in another
country, it can potentially come under the purview of that state."

Unless you foresee a visit to or imminent invasion from those
contries, I don't see how that's much of a concern to anyone in
Australia. It's all the better that those "contacts" aren't
collected by agencies that actually do have power in this country
actually.

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Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> In aus.computers Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>> https://www.techradar.com/phones/researcher-compares-android-and-ios-security-and-theres-a-clear-loser
> What a load of nonsense, they don't analyse what's sent, and admit
> that apps on both phones do contact servers for companies like
> Google that harvest user data, so the apps on the Apple phone might
> just hoard more data and send it in one big "contact" instead of
> lots of little ones. Either way the result is the same.
>
> "If an app is contacting a server located in a country like Russia
> or China, that could mean your data is accessible to authorities of
> other bodies in those nations. Once the data has landed in another
> country, it can potentially come under the purview of that state."
>
> Unless you foresee a visit to or imminent invasion from those
> contries, I don't see how that's much of a concern to anyone in
> Australia. It's all the better that those "contacts" aren't
> collected by agencies that actually do have power in this country
> actually.
>

what about identity theft?

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Petzl wrote:
> On Sat, 4 May 2024 10:26:34 +1000, Mighty Mouse
> <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>
>> https://www.techradar.com/phones/researcher-compares-android-and-ios-security-and-theres-a-clear-loser
>>
> Apple IOS check all APP's for security and are generally succesful
> I use a good Android Mobile phone but use paid bitdefender for
> security
> <https://www.bitdefender.com.au/solutions/mobile-security-android>

Bitdefender is good. I've used it on PC's but not mobiles.

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On Sat, 4 May 2024 10:26:34 +1000, Mighty Mouse
<"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:

>
>https://www.techradar.com/phones/researcher-compares-android-and-ios-security-and-theres-a-clear-loser
>
Apple IOS check all APP's for security and are generally succesful
>
I use a good Android Mobile phone but use paid bitdefender for
security
<https://www.bitdefender.com.au/solutions/mobile-security-android>
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On 4/05/2024 11:02 am, Keithr0 wrote:
> On 3/05/2024 8:26 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>
>> https://www.techradar.com/phones/researcher-compares-android-and-ios-security-and-theres-a-clear-loser
>>
> "If an app is contacting a server located in a country like Russia or
> China, that could mean your data is accessible to authorities of other
> bodies in those nations. Once the data has landed in another country, it
> can potentially come under the purview of that state."
>
> Wow, I can just imagine how interested the Russian and Chinese
> governments must be in the doings of a retired vendor of consumer grade
> AV gear. Stick with that iPhone, you're much safer, although heaven
> knows what Apple is doing with the information in those 1845 calls a day.
>
> Have a nice day.

Lol :)

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In aus.computers Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
> Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> "If an app is contacting a server located in a country like Russia
>> or China, that could mean your data is accessible to authorities of
>> other bodies in those nations. Once the data has landed in another
>> country, it can potentially come under the purview of that state."
>>
>> Unless you foresee a visit to or imminent invasion from those
>> contries, I don't see how that's much of a concern to anyone in
>> Australia. It's all the better that those "contacts" aren't
>> collected by agencies that actually do have power in this country
>> actually.
>
> what about identity theft?

By the Russian or Chinese governments? Seems unlikely, but if the
apps are sneeking ID information off to unintended people then it's
a serious concern regardless of where the data immediately goes. I
don't think the article is claiming that sort of data is being
sent, just typical user analytics info.

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On Sat, 4 May 2024 12:30:39 +1000, Mighty Mouse
<"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:

>Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> In aus.computers Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>> https://www.techradar.com/phones/researcher-compares-android-and-ios-security-and-theres-a-clear-loser
>> What a load of nonsense, they don't analyse what's sent, and admit
>> that apps on both phones do contact servers for companies like
>> Google that harvest user data, so the apps on the Apple phone might
>> just hoard more data and send it in one big "contact" instead of
>> lots of little ones. Either way the result is the same.
>>
>> "If an app is contacting a server located in a country like Russia
>> or China, that could mean your data is accessible to authorities of
>> other bodies in those nations. Once the data has landed in another
>> country, it can potentially come under the purview of that state."
>>
>> Unless you foresee a visit to or imminent invasion from those
>> contries, I don't see how that's much of a concern to anyone in
>> Australia. It's all the better that those "contacts" aren't
>> collected by agencies that actually do have power in this country
>> actually.
>>
>
>what about identity theft?
>
Bitdefender has that covered with upto US$1 million cover basic plan
<https://www.bitdefender.com/solutions/identity-theft-protection.html#plans>
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Good lawyers know the law
Great lawyers know the judge

justice is open to all; like the Ritz hotel
High Court reveals every current judge is a
member of Qantas’ ‘most exclusive club in Australia’
The High Court has exposed secret members of Qantas’
exclusive Chairman’s Lounge amid a landmark case over
the sacking of 1700 workers.

Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>
> https://www.techradar.com/phones/researcher-compares-android-and-ios-security-and-theres-a-clear-loser

They're 'comparing' Android and iOS *apps*, not the *OSs* themselves.

So, as with many/most 'news' articles, the headline doesn't cover the
content and vice versa.

And - except for a few named examples - there's no indication that
they tested the *same* apps on Android and iOS.

And when they test the same apps on both platforms, they imply that
they contact different servers and at different rates. Huh?

All in all, the usual FUD and urban legends.

The only take from the article, which *they* do not say: Pick your
apps carefully, on *either* platform.

On Sun, 05 May 2024 00:09:57 +1000, Frank Slootweg
<this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

> Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>
>> https://www.techradar.com/phones/researcher-compares-android-and-ios-security-and-theres-a-clear-loser

> They're 'comparing' Android and iOS *apps*, not the *OSs* themselves.

That's not accurate. He never checked what the phones do before
any apps are installed.

> So, as with many/most 'news' articles, the headline doesn't cover the
> content and vice versa.

And he has no idea what the traffic is actually doing.

> And - except for a few named examples - there's no indication that
> they tested the *same* apps on Android and iOS.

> And when they test the same apps on both platforms, they imply that
> they contact different servers and at different rates. Huh?

> All in all, the usual FUD and urban legends.

> The only take from the article, which *they* do not say: Pick your
> apps carefully, on *either* platform.

Not even possible when you have no way of knowing what the
traffic is actually doing.

On 4 May 2024 14:09:57 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
wrote:

>Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>
>> https://www.techradar.com/phones/researcher-compares-android-and-ios-security-and-theres-a-clear-loser
>
> They're 'comparing' Android and iOS *apps*, not the *OSs* themselves.
>
> So, as with many/most 'news' articles, the headline doesn't cover the
>content and vice versa.
>
> And - except for a few named examples - there's no indication that
>they tested the *same* apps on Android and iOS.
>
> And when they test the same apps on both platforms, they imply that
>they contact different servers and at different rates. Huh?
>
> All in all, the usual FUD and urban legends.
>
> The only take from the article, which *they* do not say: Pick your
>apps carefully, on *either* platform.
>
Google play seems where you get Android app's from. many if not most
come with malware usually with the advertising that comes with them.
A good malware virus for *Android* mobiles is needed.
Were recommended by SpyHunter(my WIN10 scanner) as they go not make a
scanner for Android they recommended BitDefender.
I find BitDefender cheap yearly fee for basic very good
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Good lawyers know the law
Great lawyers know the judge

justice is open to all; like the Ritz hotel
High Court reveals every current judge is a
member of Qantas’ ‘most exclusive club in Australia’
The High Court has exposed secret members of Qantas’
exclusive Chairman’s Lounge amid a landmark case over
the sacking of 1700 workers.

Petzl wrote:
> On 4 May 2024 14:09:57 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>> https://www.techradar.com/phones/researcher-compares-android-and-ios-security-and-theres-a-clear-loser
>> They're 'comparing' Android and iOS *apps*, not the *OSs* themselves.
>>
>> So, as with many/most 'news' articles, the headline doesn't cover the
>> content and vice versa.
>>
>> And - except for a few named examples - there's no indication that
>> they tested the *same* apps on Android and iOS.
>>
>> And when they test the same apps on both platforms, they imply that
>> they contact different servers and at different rates. Huh?
>>
>> All in all, the usual FUD and urban legends.
>>
>> The only take from the article, which *they* do not say: Pick your
>> apps carefully, on *either* platform.
>>
> Google play seems where you get Android app's from. many if not most
> come with malware usually with the advertising that comes with them.
> A good malware virus for *Android* mobiles is needed.
> Were recommended by SpyHunter(my WIN10 scanner) as they go not make a
> scanner for Android they recommended BitDefender.
> I find BitDefender cheap yearly fee for basic very good

everything on google play store is virus and malware free, or so they
say. but many free apps come with advertising, it's how they make their
money

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On Sun, 5 May 2024 08:53:54 +1000, Mighty Mouse
<"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:

>Petzl wrote:
>> On 4 May 2024 14:09:57 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>>> https://www.techradar.com/phones/researcher-compares-android-and-ios-security-and-theres-a-clear-loser
>>> They're 'comparing' Android and iOS *apps*, not the *OSs* themselves.
>>>
>>> So, as with many/most 'news' articles, the headline doesn't cover the
>>> content and vice versa.
>>>
>>> And - except for a few named examples - there's no indication that
>>> they tested the *same* apps on Android and iOS.
>>>
>>> And when they test the same apps on both platforms, they imply that
>>> they contact different servers and at different rates. Huh?
>>>
>>> All in all, the usual FUD and urban legends.
>>>
>>> The only take from the article, which *they* do not say: Pick your
>>> apps carefully, on *either* platform.
>>>
>> Google play seems where you get Android app's from. many if not most
>> come with malware usually with the advertising that comes with them.
>> A good malware virus for *Android* mobiles is needed.
>> Were recommended by SpyHunter(my WIN10 scanner) as they go not make a
>> scanner for Android they recommended BitDefender.
>> I find BitDefender cheap yearly fee for basic very good
>
>everything on google play store is virus and malware free, or so they
>say. but many free apps come with advertising, it's how they make their
>money
>
I pay for Android APP's
Although now a free type from NSW transport (I think) is avaiable,
TripView
https://transportnsw.info/apps/tripview
Has ALL buses track so I know within a minute the bus arrives outside
my place. You can also add trains if you wish.
I also paid for "Ultimate EMF Detector" App
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mreprogramming.ultimateemfdetector&hl=en&gl=US>
Just handy to check your microwave oven leak, your house EMF readings
and "Network Cell Info"
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wilysis.cellinfolite&hl=en_AU&gl=US>
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Good lawyers know the law
Great lawyers know the judge

justice is open to all; like the Ritz hotel
High Court reveals every current judge is a
member of Qantas’ ‘most exclusive club in Australia’
The High Court has exposed secret members of Qantas’
exclusive Chairman’s Lounge amid a landmark case over
the sacking of 1700 workers.

On Sat, 4 May 2024 18:34:51 +1000, Mighty Mouse
<"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:

>Petzl wrote:
>> On Sat, 4 May 2024 10:26:34 +1000, Mighty Mouse
>> <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.techradar.com/phones/researcher-compares-android-and-ios-security-and-theres-a-clear-loser
>>>
>> Apple IOS check all APP's for security and are generally succesful
>> I use a good Android Mobile phone but use paid bitdefender for
>> security
>> <https://www.bitdefender.com.au/solutions/mobile-security-android>
>
>Bitdefender is good. I've used it on PC's but not mobiles.
>
Just read this so buy BitDefender for Android
<https://7news.com.au/news/warning-for-android-users-over-malware-threat-that-can-control-phone-access-bank-details-c-14533708?utm_campaign=7news&utm_content=7NEWS%20Australia&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3VvSbrHMsQbX5PY9lvKqJGP1SGs4ppPh3yW6pleUOcqahEgI9SuXHxACg_aem_Af6WYm5-K8PCBlofZqa2e57373S8WqE1xP4K6h_ExA_suCBnVUdFWLB3tvN6WPVQwxk1MfNwq39yazzYvEFmX-bf>
https://t.ly/rgibE
users over malware threat that can control phone, access bank details
New Android malware ‘poses a significant threat to the banking
industry’.Android users are being warned of a new type of malware
connected to the Chrome internet browsing app, which has the potential
to take control of users’ phones and potentially access banking
information.
The new malware, named Brokewell, reportedly disguises itself as an
update for Chrome.
Once downloaded, it can allow cybercriminals to access sensitive
personal data.
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Good lawyers know the law
Great lawyers know the judge

justice is open to all; like the Ritz hotel
High Court reveals every current judge is a
member of Qantas’ ‘most exclusive club in Australia’
The High Court has exposed secret members of Qantas’
exclusive Chairman’s Lounge amid a landmark case over
the sacking of 1700 workers.

Petzl wrote:
> On Sat, 4 May 2024 18:34:51 +1000, Mighty Mouse
> <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>
>> Petzl wrote:
>>> On Sat, 4 May 2024 10:26:34 +1000, Mighty Mouse
>>> <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://www.techradar.com/phones/researcher-compares-android-and-ios-security-and-theres-a-clear-loser
>>>>
>>> Apple IOS check all APP's for security and are generally succesful
>>> I use a good Android Mobile phone but use paid bitdefender for
>>> security
>>> <https://www.bitdefender.com.au/solutions/mobile-security-android>
>> Bitdefender is good. I've used it on PC's but not mobiles.
>>
> Just read this so buy BitDefender for Android
> <https://7news.com.au/news/warning-for-android-users-over-malware-threat-that-can-control-phone-access-bank-details-c-14533708?utm_campaign=7news&utm_content=7NEWS%20Australia&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3VvSbrHMsQbX5PY9lvKqJGP1SGs4ppPh3yW6pleUOcqahEgI9SuXHxACg_aem_Af6WYm5-K8PCBlofZqa2e57373S8WqE1xP4K6h_ExA_suCBnVUdFWLB3tvN6WPVQwxk1MfNwq39yazzYvEFmX-bf>
> https://t.ly/rgibE
> users over malware threat that can control phone, access bank details
> New Android malware ‘poses a significant threat to the banking
> industry’.Android users are being warned of a new type of malware
> connected to the Chrome internet browsing app, which has the potential
> to take control of users’ phones and potentially access banking
> information.
> The new malware, named Brokewell, reportedly disguises itself as an
> update for Chrome.
> Once downloaded, it can allow cybercriminals to access sensitive
> personal data.

thanks for the warning. I don't use Chrome on my phone. I avoid Google
and M$ as much as possible. don't use phone banking either.

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