Would Robert (even the new one) say such a thing?

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On Tue, 30 Apr 2024 21:36:26 +0100, Mike Headon wrote:

> Would Robert (even the new one) say such a thing?

Of course not. But 12 year old script writers ...

--
Jim <http://www.jim-easterbrook.me.uk/>
1959/1985? M B+ G+ A L- I- S- P-- CH0(p) Ar++ T+ H0 Q--- Sh0

On 30/04/2024 22:08, Jim Easterbrook wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Apr 2024 21:36:26 +0100, Mike Headon wrote:
>
>> Would Robert (even the new one) say such a thing?
>
> Of course not. But 12 year old script writers ...

Perhaps the 78 year old script reader should have corrected it?

--
Cheers
Clive

On 30-Apr-24 22:44, Clive Arthur wrote:
> On 30/04/2024 22:08, Jim Easterbrook wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Apr 2024 21:36:26 +0100, Mike Headon wrote:
>>
>>> Would Robert (even the new one) say such a thing?
>>
>> Of course not. But 12 year old script writers ...
>
> Perhaps the 78 year old script reader should have corrected it?

You don't know what the workplace environment is like.

That might be a "Please Sir, I want some more." moment.

--
Sam Plusnet

On 30/04/2024 22:08, Jim Easterbrook wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Apr 2024 21:36:26 +0100, Mike Headon wrote:
>
>> Would Robert (even the new one) say such a thing?
>
> Of course not. But 12 year old script writers ...
>

Definitely not. He might say it once, but Lindy would correct him smartish.

I think you're being generous with 12 yo scriptwriters. I can remember
being taught that when I was 9.

On 01/05/2024 02:07, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 30-Apr-24 22:44, Clive Arthur wrote:
>> On 30/04/2024 22:08, Jim Easterbrook wrote:
>>> On Tue, 30 Apr 2024 21:36:26 +0100, Mike Headon wrote:
>>>
>>>> Would Robert (even the new one) say such a thing?
>>>
>>> Of course not. But 12 year old script writers ...
>>
>> Perhaps the 78 year old script reader should have corrected it?
>
> You don't know what the workplace environment is like.
>
> That might be a "Please Sir, I want some more." moment.

I recall quite recently Jazzer saying that he would correct the script
writers - whose experience of Scotch speak seems to be mostly gleaned
from 'trainspotting' - particularly their habit of putting 'ken?' at the
end of every sentence. That is, he explained, Embra and not Glasgie, ken?

--
Cheers
Clive

On 01/05/2024 10:19, Clive Arthur wrote:
> On 01/05/2024 02:07, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 30-Apr-24 22:44, Clive Arthur wrote:
>>> On 30/04/2024 22:08, Jim Easterbrook wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 30 Apr 2024 21:36:26 +0100, Mike Headon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Would Robert (even the new one) say such a thing?
>>>>
>>>> Of course not. But 12 year old script writers ...
>>>
>>> Perhaps the 78 year old script reader should have corrected it?
>>
>> You don't know what the workplace environment is like.
>>
>> That might be a "Please Sir, I want some more." moment.
>
> I recall quite recently Jazzer saying that he would correct the script
> writers - whose experience of Scotch speak seems to be mostly gleaned
> from 'trainspotting' - particularly their habit of putting 'ken?' at the
> end of every sentence.  That is, he explained, Embra and not Glasgie, ken?
>
Glaswegians would never refer to "Glasgie". Never, ever.

"Glesca" or "Glesga" is the pronunciation used by true (vernacular
speaking) Glaswegians.

John Armstrong wrote:
>> I recall quite recently Jazzer saying that he would correct the script
>> writers - whose experience of Scotch speak seems to be mostly gleaned
>> from 'trainspotting' - particularly their habit of putting 'ken?' at
>> the end of every sentence.  That is, he explained, Embra and not
>> Glasgie, ken?
>>
> Glaswegians would never refer to "Glasgie". Never, ever.
>
> "Glesca" or "Glesga" is the pronunciation used by true (vernacular
> speaking) Glaswegians.
>

I understood that scotch was alcohol and scottish was spoken, but I'm
getting old.

On 02/05/2024 11:09, DavidK wrote:
> John Armstrong wrote:
>>> I recall quite recently Jazzer saying that he would correct the
>>> script writers - whose experience of Scotch speak seems to be mostly
>>> gleaned from 'trainspotting' - particularly their habit of putting
>>> 'ken?' at the end of every sentence.  That is, he explained, Embra
>>> and not Glasgie, ken?
>>>
>> Glaswegians would never refer to "Glasgie". Never, ever.
>>
>> "Glesca" or "Glesga" is the pronunciation used by true (vernacular
>> speaking) Glaswegians.
>>
>
> I understood that scotch was alcohol and scottish was spoken, but I'm
> getting old.
>
In Scotland, the only things referred to as "Scotch" are eggs and broth.

If you want whisky in a pub, you'd either ask for "a whisky" or "a half"
or you'd ask for the brand you wanted - eg "a Bells".

In message <l9jjqeF1onqU1@mid.individual.net> at Fri, 3 May 2024
08:59:10, John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> writes
[]
>In Scotland, the only things referred to as "Scotch" are eggs and
>broth.
>
>If you want whisky in a pub, you'd either ask for "a whisky" or "a
>half" or you'd ask for the brand you wanted - eg "a Bells".

Interesting; what would "a half" get you? Something like half a gill, I
guess? (I'm not a drinker - certainly not of whisk[e]y!* - so I don't
know what a normal measure would be.) In England, I think "a half" would
get you a half pint of beer, no?

* I don't _disapprove_ of whisk[e]y, nor those who drink it; I just
don't like it. (And no, it's not just a matter of quality - I've been
given a taste of what are supposed to be very posh ones, and still
don't; they _all_ taste [and smell] like a chemical I'd use for other
purposes, to me.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than
to those attending too small a degree of it. -Thomas Jefferson, 3rd US
president, architect and author (1743-1826)

On Fri, 3 May 2024 19:33:51 +0100, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

>On 03-May-24 15:18, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>> In message <l9jjqeF1onqU1@mid.individual.net> at Fri, 3 May 2024
>> 08:59:10, John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> writes
>> []
>>> In Scotland, the only things referred to as "Scotch" are eggs and broth.
>>>
>>> If you want whisky in a pub, you'd either ask for "a whisky" or "a
>>> half" or you'd ask for the brand you wanted - eg "a Bells".
>>
>> Interesting; what would "a half" get you? Something like half a gill, I
>> guess? (I'm not a drinker - certainly not of whisk[e]y!* - so I don't
>> know what a normal measure would be.) In England, I think "a half" would
>> get you a half pint of beer, no?
>>
>> * I don't _disapprove_ of whisk[e]y, nor those who drink it; I just
>> don't like it. (And no, it's not just a matter of quality - I've been
>> given a taste of what are supposed to be very posh ones, and still
>> don't; they _all_ taste [and smell] like a chemical I'd use for other
>> purposes, to me.)
>
>I'm not much of a whisky drinker, but whenever I have bought a bottle
>(they usually last me for a year or so) I bought a decent single malt
>since there was no real need to economise on such a rare purchase.
>
>On a whim, I just bought a half bottle of Famous Grouse (a modest
>blended whisky M'Lud) and found I enjoyed it just as much as
>Glenmorangie et. al.
>I have cheap tastes.

I've always liked Jameson's. I had a party many years ago and a couple
of people reckoned they were knowledgeable about drinks. Around 2.a.m,
a warm summer, all in the garden, we had a blind tasting competition.
Tallisker, Tesco's blended and Jameson's. Only one person got them
right :) and they were almost too drunk to join in, but had been sent
to spend late teens on the family vineyard in Australia and developed
a palette.A couple said the Tesco's was Tallisker.

On 03-May-24 15:18, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> In message <l9jjqeF1onqU1@mid.individual.net> at Fri, 3 May 2024
> 08:59:10, John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> writes
> []
>> In Scotland, the only things referred to as "Scotch" are eggs and broth.
>>
>> If you want whisky in a pub, you'd either ask for "a whisky" or "a
>> half" or you'd ask for the brand you wanted - eg "a Bells".
>
> Interesting; what would "a half" get you? Something like half a gill, I
> guess? (I'm not a drinker - certainly not of whisk[e]y!* - so I don't
> know what a normal measure would be.) In England, I think "a half" would
> get you a half pint of beer, no?
>
> * I don't _disapprove_ of whisk[e]y, nor those who drink it; I just
> don't like it. (And no, it's not just a matter of quality - I've been
> given a taste of what are supposed to be very posh ones, and still
> don't; they _all_ taste [and smell] like a chemical I'd use for other
> purposes, to me.)

I'm not much of a whisky drinker, but whenever I have bought a bottle
(they usually last me for a year or so) I bought a decent single malt
since there was no real need to economise on such a rare purchase.

On a whim, I just bought a half bottle of Famous Grouse (a modest
blended whisky M'Lud) and found I enjoyed it just as much as
Glenmorangie et. al.
I have cheap tastes.

--
Sam Plusnet

On 03.05.24 20:33, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 03-May-24 15:18, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>> In message <l9jjqeF1onqU1@mid.individual.net> at Fri, 3 May 2024
>> 08:59:10, John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> writes
>> []
>>> In Scotland, the only things referred to as "Scotch" are eggs and broth.
>>>
>>> If you want whisky in a pub, you'd either ask for "a whisky" or "a
>>> half" or you'd ask for the brand you wanted - eg "a Bells".
>>
>> Interesting; what would "a half" get you? Something like half a gill, I
>> guess? (I'm not a drinker - certainly not of whisk[e]y!* - so I don't
>> know what a normal measure would be.) In England, I think "a half" would
>> get you a half pint of beer, no?
>>
>> * I don't _disapprove_ of whisk[e]y, nor those who drink it; I just
>> don't like it. (And no, it's not just a matter of quality - I've been
>> given a taste of what are supposed to be very posh ones, and still
>> don't; they _all_ taste [and smell] like a chemical I'd use for other
>> purposes, to me.)
>
> I'm not much of a whisky drinker, but whenever I have bought a bottle
> (they usually last me for a year or so) I bought a decent single malt
> since there was no real need to economise on such a rare purchase.
>
> On a whim, I just bought a half bottle of Famous Grouse (a modest
> blended whisky M'Lud) and found I enjoyed it just as much as
> Glenmorangie et. al.
> I have cheap tastes.
>
I only like "GlenTalloch" blended Scotch whisky.
Al others taste like paint remover.

In message <k6aZN.6$tzm1.2@fx14.ams1> at Fri, 3 May 2024 19:33:51, Sam
Plusnet <not@home.com> writes
>On 03-May-24 15:18, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>> In message <l9jjqeF1onqU1@mid.individual.net> at Fri, 3 May 2024
>>08:59:10, John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> writes
>> []
>>> In Scotland, the only things referred to as "Scotch" are eggs and broth.
>>>
>>> If you want whisky in a pub, you'd either ask for "a whisky" or "a
>>>half" or you'd ask for the brand you wanted - eg "a Bells".
>> Interesting; what would "a half" get you? Something like half a
>>gill, I guess? (I'm not a drinker - certainly not of whisk[e]y!* - so
>>I don't know what a normal measure would be.) In England, I think "a
>>half" would get you a half pint of beer, no?

(Was I right?)
[]
>I'm not much of a whisky drinker, but whenever I have bought a bottle
>(they usually last me for a year or so) I bought a decent single malt

I like winding up medical people, when they're asking me how much I
drink, by saying "I don't know, maybe a hundred units ..." and waiting
for them to look a bit concerned, before saying "a year". (I doubt it's
that much, actually.)

>since there was no real need to economise on such a rare purchase.
>
>On a whim, I just bought a half bottle of Famous Grouse (a modest
>blended whisky M'Lud) and found I enjoyed it just as much as
>Glenmorangie et. al.

I understand from a friend - he _does_ appreciate a good whisky, but
also buys cheaper stuff as a painkiller (he has chronic back pain, but
doesn't want to get hooked on morphine) that there is a discernible
difference between the common but known varieties (Bells, Grouse, etc.)
and the absolute cheapest legally available (basically supermarket own
brands etc.). (I'm not talking illegal rotgut.)

>I have cheap tastes.
>
Me too in many things - instant coffee, meat, cheese. The coffee
especially.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

What's awful about weird views is not the views. It's the intolerance. If
someone wants to worship the Duke of Edinburgh or a pineapple, fine. But don't
kill me if I don't agree. - Tim Rice, Radio Times 15-21 October 2011.

On 03/05/2024 15:18, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> In message <l9jjqeF1onqU1@mid.individual.net> at Fri, 3 May 2024
> 08:59:10, John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> writes
> []
>> In Scotland, the only things referred to as "Scotch" are eggs and broth.
>>
>> If you want whisky in a pub, you'd either ask for "a whisky" or "a
>> half" or you'd ask for the brand you wanted - eg "a Bells".
>
> Interesting; what would "a half" get you? Something like half a gill, I
> guess? (I'm not a drinker - certainly not of whisk[e]y!* - so I don't
> know what a normal measure would be.) In England, I think "a half" would
> get you a half pint of beer, no?

In Scotland, "a half" once upon a time would have been either a half of
a gill or (possibly and less likely) a half of a quarter of a gill, but
that was many years ago. "A half and a half pint" was a fairly common
order in a traditional pub. And the half pint would almost certainly be
"heavy", unless otherwise specified. "A half" would be taken as a
request for a whisky.

Spirits in Scottish licensed premises - certainly from the 60s when I
first took an interest - were sold in quantities either of a fifth of a
gill, or in some establishments a quarter of a gill.

English pubs at that time sold spirits in sixths of a gil. That barely
wet the glass, and had to be consumed quickly before it evaporated.

Asking for a "a half" would get you whatever that establishment sold. "A
large...." would get you a double measure. Licensed premises had to
display clearly on notices what measures were dispensed. And they still
have to do this. After metrication, measures in Scotland became 25 ml or
35 ml.

John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> writes:

> On 02/05/2024 11:09, DavidK wrote:
>> John Armstrong wrote:
>>>> I recall quite recently Jazzer saying that he would correct the
>>>> script writers - whose experience of Scotch speak seems to be
>>>> mostly gleaned from 'trainspotting' - particularly their habit of
>>>> putting 'ken?' at the end of every sentence.  That is, he
>>>> explained, Embra and not Glasgie, ken?
>>>>
>>> Glaswegians would never refer to "Glasgie". Never, ever.
>>>
>>> "Glesca" or "Glesga" is the pronunciation used by true (vernacular
>>> speaking) Glaswegians.
>>>
>> I understood that scotch was alcohol and scottish was spoken, but
>> I'm getting old.
>>
> In Scotland, the only things referred to as "Scotch" are eggs and
> broth.

And scotch pies, which are extremely variable and the contents of some
heavily marketed ones are best not enquired into.

Scotch eggs don't come from Scotland and the 'scotch' there has
no connection with Scotland. Also you won't find "Scotch Broth" in
Scotland that didn't originate in a tin, generally from one of the big
corporations but also from Baxters of Fochabers (which aspires to be an
international conglomerate. Since I've been living here I have observed
that Scots wince when the word 'scotch' is used as a homonym for
'scottish'. For some reason 'Scotch beef' and 'Scotch lamb' persist, and
I suspect the reason is that 'Scotch' can be trademarked and 'scottish'
can't.

There is, or was, a prominent pub in Bristol called The Scotchman and
his Pack. I'm led to believe that it is now closed but is probably
standing derelict. In my time chairing the central area planning
committee I'd have said to the director, find the owners and tell them
that if they don't agree do something quickly we get a compulsory
purchase (it worked for the Sugar House, one of my small triumphs). The
pub is at the bottom of the steep St Michaels Hill and the scotchman
referred to is the man who walked behind carriags going up the hill,
placing wooden wedges called scotches under the wheels to stop them
rolling backwards. He carried a pack of these things, but he wasn't
necessarily Scottish.

> If you want whisky in a pub, you'd either ask for "a whisky" or "a
> half" or you'd ask for the brand you wanted - eg "a Bells".

Scots don't order Bell's. Although Bell's (a Diageo (ex United
Distillers) product) is the best-selling cooking whisky in England it is
held in some contempt by Scots, who buy much more Famous Grouse from the
still family-owned Edrington Group. Edrington also produce the excellent
Highland Park (my single malt of choice) and The Macallan (also high on
my list), both of which presumably go into the Famous Grouse blend, so
who can blame them.

Rosie

On 04/05/2024 14:31, Rosie Mitchell wrote:
> John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> writes:

>> In Scotland, the only things referred to as "Scotch" are eggs and
>> broth.
>
> And scotch pies, which are extremely variable and the contents of some
> heavily marketed ones are best not enquired into.

Possibly. It has been my experience over more than seven decades, that
simply asking for "a pie" (or in the part of Scotland where I've lived
since 1989, "a peh") might elicit the response "Hot or cold?" Some of
the more recent abominations (eg "macaroni pies") would have to be
specified. It has been my experience that pies made locally are usually
the best buy.
>
> Scotch eggs don't come from Scotland and the 'scotch' there has
> no connection with Scotland. Also you won't find "Scotch Broth" in
> Scotland that didn't originate in a tin, generally from one of the big
> corporations but also from Baxters of Fochabers (which aspires to be an
> international conglomerate.

For political reasons, Baxters products have not featured on my shopping
lists for some years.

Since I've been living here I have observed
> that Scots wince when the word 'scotch' is used as a homonym for
> 'scottish'.

Yes indeed.

For some reason 'Scotch beef' and 'Scotch lamb' persist, and
> I suspect the reason is that 'Scotch' can be trademarked and 'scottish'
> can't.

I think that is correct.

> Scots don't order Bell's. Although Bell's (a Diageo (ex United
> Distillers) product) is the best-selling cooking whisky in England it is
> held in some contempt by Scots, who buy much more Famous Grouse from the
> still family-owned Edrington Group. Edrington also produce the excellent
> Highland Park (my single malt of choice) and The Macallan (also high on
> my list), both of which presumably go into the Famous Grouse blend, so
> who can blame them.

All true. It was just the first name that came to mind. I have neither
bought nor consumed any whisky for many years.

I cannot say the same for brandy or gin. Many interesting gins are now
distilled in Scotland.

On Sat, 04 May 2024 14:31:45 +0100, Rosie Mitchell
<rcmitchell@golgonooza.co.uk> wrote:

>John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> writes:
>
>> On 02/05/2024 11:09, DavidK wrote:
>>> John Armstrong wrote:
>>>>> I recall quite recently Jazzer saying that he would correct the
>>>>> script writers - whose experience of Scotch speak seems to be
>>>>> mostly gleaned from 'trainspotting' - particularly their habit of
>>>>> putting 'ken?' at the end of every sentence.  That is, he
>>>>> explained, Embra and not Glasgie, ken?
>>>>>
>>>> Glaswegians would never refer to "Glasgie". Never, ever.
>>>>
>>>> "Glesca" or "Glesga" is the pronunciation used by true (vernacular
>>>> speaking) Glaswegians.
>>>>
>>> I understood that scotch was alcohol and scottish was spoken, but
>>> I'm getting old.
>>>
>> In Scotland, the only things referred to as "Scotch" are eggs and
>> broth.
>
>And scotch pies, which are extremely variable and the contents of some
>heavily marketed ones are best not enquired into.
>
>Scotch eggs don't come from Scotland and the 'scotch' there has
>no connection with Scotland. Also you won't find "Scotch Broth" in
>Scotland that didn't originate in a tin, generally from one of the big
>corporations but also from Baxters of Fochabers (which aspires to be an
>international conglomerate. Since I've been living here I have observed
>that Scots wince when the word 'scotch' is used as a homonym for
>'scottish'. For some reason 'Scotch beef' and 'Scotch lamb' persist, and
>I suspect the reason is that 'Scotch' can be trademarked and 'scottish'
>can't.
>
>There is, or was, a prominent pub in Bristol called The Scotchman and
>his Pack. I'm led to believe that it is now closed but is probably
>standing derelict. In my time chairing the central area planning
>committee I'd have said to the director, find the owners and tell them
>that if they don't agree do something quickly we get a compulsory
>purchase (it worked for the Sugar House, one of my small triumphs). The
>pub is at the bottom of the steep St Michaels Hill and the scotchman
>referred to is the man who walked behind carriags going up the hill,
>placing wooden wedges called scotches under the wheels to stop them
>rolling backwards. He carried a pack of these things, but he wasn't
>necessarily Scottish.
>
>> If you want whisky in a pub, you'd either ask for "a whisky" or "a
>> half" or you'd ask for the brand you wanted - eg "a Bells".
>
>Scots don't order Bell's. Although Bell's (a Diageo (ex United
>Distillers) product) is the best-selling cooking whisky in England it is
>held in some contempt by Scots, who buy much more Famous Grouse from the
>still family-owned Edrington Group. Edrington also produce the excellent
>Highland Park (my single malt of choice) and The Macallan (also high on
>my list), both of which presumably go into the Famous Grouse blend, so
>who can blame them.
>
For me, one of the deeper mysteries of Dick Francis' "Proof" (or at
least the radio version regularly served up on R4x) is the
protagonist's determined search to uncover the fake Bell's whisky. I
mean, who would go to the trouble of faking Bell's? That would be on a
par with filing the corners off a 50p coin in order to forge 10p ones.

Nick

On 05/05/2024 09:14, John Armstrong wrote:
> On 04/05/2024 14:31, Rosie Mitchell wrote:
>> John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> writes:
>
>> And scotch pies, which are extremely variable and the contents of some
>> heavily marketed ones are best not enquired into.
>
> Possibly. It has been my experience over more than seven decades, that
> simply asking for "a pie" (or in the part of Scotland where I've lived
> since 1989, "a peh") might elicit the response "Hot or cold?" Some of
> the more recent abominations (eg "macaroni pies") would have to be
> specified. It has been my experience that pies made locally are usually
> the best buy.

Before you dismiss utterly and forever the notion of macaroni pies, I
feel I must just put in (DINTAFPOU?*) that they are actually an Italian
invention and doubtless arrived in Glasgow that way. Though they may not
quite be a classic timballo as described in The Leopard

https://marcoskitchen.it/timballo-del-gattopardo/

>
> I cannot say the same for brandy or gin. Many interesting gins are now
> distilled in Scotland.
>
They are indeed, and excellent for an aperitif. But for me nothing quite
beats settling down with a book or a pal after dinner accompanied by a
dram of something luscious from Islay.

*Haven't done that for a while. Is that right?

--
Kate B

John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> writes:

> I cannot say the same for brandy or gin. Many interesting gins are now
> distilled in Scotland.

Indeed, and there is a plethora of new distilleries opening. Gin has a
much faster turnover than whisky of course, and a lot of the gin is
keeping the stills busy and bringing in revenue while the whisky is
maturing, but not yet earning, in the cask.

Rosie

In message <l9poeoFttbqU1@mid.individual.net> at Sun, 5 May 2024
16:55:05, Kate B <elvira@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes
[]
>They are indeed, and excellent for an aperitif. But for me nothing
>quite beats settling down with a book or a pal after dinner accompanied
>by a dram of something luscious from Islay.
[]
Around Christmas, Lidl sell a couple of single malts (in posh tubes),
one of which is from Islay - and I'm assured by my whisky-kenner friend
that it is more than acceptable. Needless to say, it is economically
priced.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"Bugger," said Pooh, feeling very annoyed.

On 05/05/2024 23:16, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> In message <l9poeoFttbqU1@mid.individual.net> at Sun, 5 May 2024
> 16:55:05, Kate B <elvira@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes
> []
>> They are indeed, and excellent for an aperitif. But for me nothing
>> quite beats settling down with a book or a pal after dinner
>> accompanied by a dram of something luscious from Islay.
> []
> Around Christmas, Lidl sell a couple of single malts (in posh tubes),
> one of which is from Islay - and I'm assured by my whisky-kenner friend
> that it is more than acceptable. Needless to say, it is economically
> priced.

The time I bought it I returned it as undrinkable and I am a fan of
Islay malts generally. The Aldi version is better (IMO).

john

In message <v19rhf$2da7t$1@dont-email.me> at Mon, 6 May 2024 06:58:07,
john ashby <johnashby20@yahoo.com> writes
>On 05/05/2024 23:16, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
[]
>> Around Christmas, Lidl sell a couple of single malts (in posh tubes),
>>one of which is from Islay - and I'm assured by my whisky-kenner
>>friend that it is more than acceptable. Needless to say, it is
>>economically priced.
>
>The time I bought it I returned it as undrinkable and I am a fan of
>Islay malts generally. The Aldi version is better (IMO).
>
>john

How did you return it, having determined it was undrinkable - did they
accept an opened bottle?
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

As Groucho Marx said, "I cannot say that I do not disagree with you."

On 06/05/2024 08:34, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> In message <v19rhf$2da7t$1@dont-email.me> at Mon, 6 May 2024 06:58:07,
> john ashby <johnashby20@yahoo.com> writes
>> On 05/05/2024 23:16, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> []
>>> Around Christmas, Lidl sell a couple of single malts (in posh tubes),
>>> one of which is from Islay - and I'm assured by my whisky-kenner
>>> friend  that it is more than acceptable. Needless to say, it is
>>> economically  priced.
>>
>> The time I bought it I returned it as undrinkable and I am a fan of
>> Islay malts generally. The Aldi version is better (IMO).
>>
>> john
>
> How did you return it, having determined it was undrinkable - did they
> accept an opened bottle?

Yes.

john

In message <v1akc9$2inbh$2@dont-email.me> at Mon, 6 May 2024 14:02:01,
john ashby <johnashby20@yahoo.com> writes
>On 06/05/2024 08:34, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>> In message <v19rhf$2da7t$1@dont-email.me> at Mon, 6 May 2024
>>06:58:07, john ashby <johnashby20@yahoo.com> writes
>>> On 05/05/2024 23:16, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>> []
>>>> Around Christmas, Lidl sell a couple of single malts (in posh
>>>>tubes), one of which is from Islay - and I'm assured by my
>>>>whisky-kenner friend  that it is more than acceptable. Needless to
>>>>say, it is economically  priced.
>>>
>>> The time I bought it I returned it as undrinkable and I am a fan of
>>>Islay malts generally. The Aldi version is better (IMO).
>>>
>>> john
>> How did you return it, having determined it was undrinkable - did
>>they accept an opened bottle?
>
>Yes.
>
>john

Good to know.

On the rare occasions when I _have_ had some sort of return or query
with Lidl, I've found them very accommodating. (IIRR, Aldi too.) But
taking an opened bottle of whisky does surprise me!
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

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