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* Results of a test of mixmin posts, comparing the past few years with today's resAndy Burnelli
`* Results of a test of mixmin posts, comparing the past few yearsPaul
 +- Results of a test of mixmin posts, comparing the past few years with today's resAndy Burnelli
 `* Results of a test of mixmin posts, comparing the past few years with today's resAndy Burnelli
  `- Results of a test of mixmin posts, comparing the past few years with today's resNomen Nescio

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Re: Results of a test of mixmin posts, comparing the past few years with today's results

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From: nospam@nospam.net (Andy Burnelli)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp,alt.free.newsservers
Subject: Re: Results of a test of mixmin posts, comparing the past few years with today's results
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 04:27:08 +0000
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 by: Andy Burnelli - Fri, 24 Feb 2023 04:27 UTC

Tom Furie wrote:

> According to my logs, the only posts through mixmin which have those
> unexpected components to the right of news.mixmin.net!.POSTED, are
> yours.

Now _that_ is interesting!
As far as I know, I'm "normal" to any of these nntp servers, so to speak.

I just saw that Wolfang said the same thing as you, so I checked what I
could in the three newsgroups I post most to, which are, for the record:
<http://news.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android>
<http://news.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone>

If I filter those newsgroups on message id's containing mixmin, I can see
I'm not the only one posting to those newsgroups using the mixmin server.

But I pretty much see what you are saying looking at the PATH: headers.
Listed in short-to-long order to eliminate duplicates in the results
there are only about a dozen different PATH: headers in those newsgroups.

Path: sewer!news.mixmin.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail
Path: sewer!news.mixmin.net!news.neodome.net!mail2news
Path: sewer!news2.arglkargh.de!news.mixmin.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail
Path: sewer!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!news.mixmin.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail
Path: sewer!alphared!news.uzoreto.com!eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!news.mixmin.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail
Path: sewer!news.mixmin.net!.POSTED!sewer!alphared!news.uzoreto.com!aioe.org!uC+u+wrvCiJRhswcuU7oWw.user.46.165.242.75.POSTED!not-for-mail
Path: sewer!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!news.mixmin.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail
Path: sewer!news2.arglkargh.de!news.karotte.org!news.szaf.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!news.mixmin.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail
Path: sewer!alphared!news2.arglkargh.de!news.karotte.org!news.szaf.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!news.mixmin.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail
Path: sewer!alphared!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.us.feeder.erje.net!1.us.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feed1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!news.ausics.net!news.mixmin.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail

And only mine have the "aioe" in that Path: header.
I agree that's rather odd.

Why would my PATH: show up any differently than anyone else's does?

Re: Results of a test of mixmin posts, comparing the past few years with today's results

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From: nospam@needed.invalid (Paul)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp,alt.free.newsservers
Subject: Re: Results of a test of mixmin posts, comparing the past few years
with today's results
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 07:24:22 -0500
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 by: Paul - Fri, 24 Feb 2023 12:24 UTC

On 2/23/2023 11:27 PM, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Tom Furie wrote:
>
>> According to my logs, the only posts through mixmin which have those
>> unexpected components to the right of news.mixmin.net!.POSTED, are
>> yours.
>
>
> Why would my PATH: show up any differently than anyone else's does?

The obscurity of your injection methods, is what ends up
finding things like these path preloads.

How many other people, inject messages exactly the way you do ?

The evidence says, none this month.

Paul

Re: Results of a test of mixmin posts, comparing the past few years with today's results

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From: nospam@nospam.net (Andy Burnelli)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp,alt.free.newsservers
Subject: Re: Results of a test of mixmin posts, comparing the past few years with today's results
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2023 23:00:13 -0800
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 by: Andy Burnelli - Sun, 26 Feb 2023 07:00 UTC

Paul wrote:

> The obscurity of your injection methods, is what ends up
> finding things like these path preloads.
>
> How many other people, inject messages exactly the way you do ?
>
> The evidence says, none this month.

Hi Paul,
Thanks. I know you well from the Windows ng and you're a purposefully
helpful guy, like I am, who has helped thousands over the years.

I found the problem which was a syntax error crept into the scripts.

I will send _this_ message via Paganini & Mixmin on Saturday February 26th,
at 11pm via my telnet scripts and at the same time I will ensure my system
time (which changes randomly to foil fingerprinters) will be Pacific Time.

I expect the Mixmin copy to arrive in a few days, sans aioe in the path.

Re: Results of a test of mixmin posts, comparing the past few years with today's results

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From: nospam@nospam.net (Andy Burnelli)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp,alt.free.newsservers
Subject: Re: Results of a test of mixmin posts, comparing the past few years with today's results
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2023 23:00:09 -0800
Organization: Mixmin
Message-ID: <ttf01c$1ckpr$1@news.mixmin.net>
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 by: Andy Burnelli - Sun, 26 Feb 2023 07:00 UTC

Paul wrote:

> The obscurity of your injection methods, is what ends up
> finding things like these path preloads.
>
> How many other people, inject messages exactly the way you do ?
>
> The evidence says, none this month.

Hi Paul,
Thanks. I know you well from the Windows ng and you're a purposefully
helpful guy, like I am, who has helped thousands over the years.

I found the problem which was a syntax error crept into the scripts.

I will send _this_ message via Paganini & Mixmin on Saturday February 26th,
at 11pm via my telnet scripts and at the same time I will ensure my system
time (which changes randomly to foil fingerprinters) will be Pacific Time.

I expect the Mixmin copy to arrive in a few days, sans aioe in the path.

Re: Results of a test of mixmin posts, comparing the past few years with today's results

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Subject: Re: Results of a test of mixmin posts, comparing the past few years with today's results
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 by: Nomen Nescio - Thu, 2 Mar 2023 01:17 UTC

Andy Burnelli <nospam@nospam.net> writes:

> Paul wrote:
>
>> The obscurity of your injection methods, is what ends up
>> finding things like these path preloads.
>> How many other people, inject messages exactly the way you do ?
>> The evidence says, none this month.
>
> Hi Paul,
> Thanks. I know you well from the Windows ng and you're a purposefully
> helpful guy, like I am, who has helped thousands over the years.
>
> I found the problem which was a syntax error crept into the scripts.
>
> I will send _this_ message via Paganini & Mixmin on Saturday February
> 26th, at 11pm via my telnet scripts and at the same time I will ensure
> my system
> time (which changes randomly to foil fingerprinters) will be Pacific Time.
>
> I expect the Mixmin copy to arrive in a few days, sans aioe in the path.

This message have your User-Agent in Path.

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