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Arch Linux upgrade

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From: OFeem1987@teleworm.us (Chris Ahlstrom)
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Subject: Arch Linux upgrade
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 06:59:28 -0400
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by: Chris Ahlstrom - Mon, 29 Apr 2024 10:59 UTC

I like how Linux updates often save memory.

# pacman -Syu
. . .
xorg-util-macros-1.20.1-1 xorg-xwayland-23.2.6-2
yt-dlp-2024.04.09-2 zbar-0.23.93-1

Total Download Size: 1864.02 MiB
Total Installed Size: 5641.42 MiB
Net Upgrade Size: -21.89 MiB

:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n]
:: Retrieving packages...

Is Windows still an ever-bloating monstrosity? I don't have to care anymore!

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From: candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid (candycanearter07)
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Subject: Re: Arch Linux upgrade
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by: candycanearter07 - Mon, 29 Apr 2024 14:40 UTC

Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote at 10:59 this Monday (GMT):
> I like how Linux updates often save memory.
>
> # pacman -Syu
> . . .
> xorg-util-macros-1.20.1-1 xorg-xwayland-23.2.6-2
> yt-dlp-2024.04.09-2 zbar-0.23.93-1
>
> Total Download Size: 1864.02 MiB
> Total Installed Size: 5641.42 MiB
> Net Upgrade Size: -21.89 MiB
>
>:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n]
>:: Retrieving packages...
>
> Is Windows still an ever-bloating monstrosity? I don't have to care anymore!

Huh, do they have better optimization used? Or is it just removing
deprecated code?
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From: ldo@nz.invalid (Lawrence D'Oliveiro)
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by: Lawrence D'Oliv - Mon, 29 Apr 2024 22:32 UTC

On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 14:40:11 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

> Huh, do they have better optimization used?

There’s a lot of stuff in Windows that nobody dares to touch because they
aren’t really sure what it does any more. And so the legacy cruft just
piles up and up.

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by: Simon - Tue, 30 Apr 2024 08:54 UTC

On 2024-04-29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 14:40:11 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>
>> Huh, do they have better optimization used?
>
> There’s a lot of stuff in Windows that nobody dares to touch because they
> aren’t really sure what it does any more. And so the legacy cruft just
> piles up and up.

It does make me laugh how Win11 has pretty interfaces, then as you click more
into the settings it reverts back through the ages giving insights into how
windows used to look.
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From: OFeem1987@teleworm.us (Chris Ahlstrom)
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Subject: Re: Arch Linux upgrade
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by: Chris Ahlstrom - Tue, 30 Apr 2024 11:38 UTC

candycanearter07 wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote at 10:59 this Monday (GMT):
>> I like how Linux updates often save memory.
>>
>> # pacman -Syu
>> . . .
>> xorg-util-macros-1.20.1-1 xorg-xwayland-23.2.6-2
>> yt-dlp-2024.04.09-2 zbar-0.23.93-1
>>
>> Total Download Size: 1864.02 MiB
>> Total Installed Size: 5641.42 MiB
>> Net Upgrade Size: -21.89 MiB
>>
>>:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n]
>>:: Retrieving packages...
>>
>> Is Windows still an ever-bloating monstrosity? I don't have to care anymore!
>
> Huh, do they have better optimization used? Or is it just removing
> deprecated code?

Does it matter?

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by: Chris Ahlstrom - Tue, 30 Apr 2024 11:41 UTC

Simon wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2024-04-29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 14:40:11 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>>
>>> Huh, do they have better optimization used?
>>
>> There’s a lot of stuff in Windows that nobody dares to touch because they
>> aren’t really sure what it does any more. And so the legacy cruft just
>> piles up and up.
>
> It does make me laugh how Win11 has pretty interfaces, then as you click more
> into the settings it reverts back through the ages giving insights into how
> windows used to look.

My favorite are the tiny claustrophobic editing dialogs. I think they finally
fixed that for editing environment variables, though.

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by: candycanearter07 - Tue, 30 Apr 2024 15:20 UTC

Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote at 11:38 this Tuesday (GMT):
> candycanearter07 wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote at 10:59 this Monday (GMT):
>>> I like how Linux updates often save memory.
>>>
>>> # pacman -Syu
>>> . . .
>>> xorg-util-macros-1.20.1-1 xorg-xwayland-23.2.6-2
>>> yt-dlp-2024.04.09-2 zbar-0.23.93-1
>>>
>>> Total Download Size: 1864.02 MiB
>>> Total Installed Size: 5641.42 MiB
>>> Net Upgrade Size: -21.89 MiB
>>>
>>>:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n]
>>>:: Retrieving packages...
>>>
>>> Is Windows still an ever-bloating monstrosity? I don't have to care anymore!
>>
>> Huh, do they have better optimization used? Or is it just removing
>> deprecated code?
>
> Does it matter?

Not really, I'm just curious.
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by: Andrzej Matuch - Tue, 30 Apr 2024 17:18 UTC

On 2024-04-30 7:38 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> candycanearter07 wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote at 10:59 this Monday (GMT):
>>> I like how Linux updates often save memory.
>>>
>>> # pacman -Syu
>>> . . .
>>> xorg-util-macros-1.20.1-1 xorg-xwayland-23.2.6-2
>>> yt-dlp-2024.04.09-2 zbar-0.23.93-1
>>>
>>> Total Download Size: 1864.02 MiB
>>> Total Installed Size: 5641.42 MiB
>>> Net Upgrade Size: -21.89 MiB
>>>
>>> :: Proceed with installation? [Y/n]
>>> :: Retrieving packages...
>>>
>>> Is Windows still an ever-bloating monstrosity? I don't have to care anymore!
>>
>> Huh, do they have better optimization used? Or is it just removing
>> deprecated code?
>
> Does it matter?

They are likely removing lines by realizing that certain things can be
done more efficiently in some other fashion. That would explain why code
specific to Linux is usually faster to equivalent code specific to
Windows or Mac OS.

--
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TG: @AndrzejMatuch
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by: Chris Ahlstrom - Tue, 30 Apr 2024 17:21 UTC

candycanearter07 wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote at 11:38 this Tuesday (GMT):
>> candycanearter07 wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote at 10:59 this Monday (GMT):
>>>> I like how Linux updates often save memory.
>>>>
>>>> # pacman -Syu
>>>> . . .
>>>> xorg-util-macros-1.20.1-1 xorg-xwayland-23.2.6-2
>>>> yt-dlp-2024.04.09-2 zbar-0.23.93-1
>>>>
>>>> Total Download Size: 1864.02 MiB
>>>> Total Installed Size: 5641.42 MiB
>>>> Net Upgrade Size: -21.89 MiB
>>>>
>>>>:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n]
>>>>:: Retrieving packages...
>>>>
>>>> Is Windows still an ever-bloating monstrosity? I don't have to care anymore!
>>>
>>> Huh, do they have better optimization used? Or is it just removing
>>> deprecated code?
>>
>> Does it matter?
>
> Not really, I'm just curious.

Would have to get and read the change-log for each updated item. Bleh.

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by: candycanearter07 - Wed, 1 May 2024 04:00 UTC

Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote at 17:21 this Tuesday (GMT):
> candycanearter07 wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote at 11:38 this Tuesday (GMT):
>>> candycanearter07 wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote at 10:59 this Monday (GMT):
>>>>> I like how Linux updates often save memory.
>>>>>
>>>>> # pacman -Syu
>>>>> . . .
>>>>> xorg-util-macros-1.20.1-1 xorg-xwayland-23.2.6-2
>>>>> yt-dlp-2024.04.09-2 zbar-0.23.93-1
>>>>>
>>>>> Total Download Size: 1864.02 MiB
>>>>> Total Installed Size: 5641.42 MiB
>>>>> Net Upgrade Size: -21.89 MiB
>>>>>
>>>>>:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n]
>>>>>:: Retrieving packages...
>>>>>
>>>>> Is Windows still an ever-bloating monstrosity? I don't have to care anymore!
>>>>
>>>> Huh, do they have better optimization used? Or is it just removing
>>>> deprecated code?
>>>
>>> Does it matter?
>>
>> Not really, I'm just curious.
>
> Would have to get and read the change-log for each updated item. Bleh.

I'm going to assume it's just optimization then.
--
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

Re: Arch Linux upgrade

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by: DFS - Thu, 2 May 2024 18:57 UTC

On 4/29/2024 6:59 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> I like how Linux updates often save memory.

often?

What a lie.

> Is Windows still an ever-bloating monstrosity?

"Marti, we don't care about Microsoft and its products here."
- Creepy Ahlstrom

> I don't have to care anymore!

You didn't have a care in the world as long as the Windows money was
rolling in:

"I'm not worried about money, we have plenty. Thanks to Windows-related
work, but that's my own crucifix to bear." - Creepy Ahlstrom Feb 2007

And did you ever suffer! You bore that 'crucifix' daily for another 17
years, whining about Windows and MS the whole time ... there's a good
"advocate".

What is research but a blind date with knowledge? -- Will Harvey

computers / comp.os.linux.advocacy / Re: Arch Linux upgrade

computers / comp.os.linux.advocacy / Re: Arch Linux upgrade

Subject	Author
Arch Linux upgrade	Chris Ahlstrom
Re: Arch Linux upgrade	candycanearter07
Re: Arch Linux upgrade	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Arch Linux upgrade	Simon
Re: Arch Linux upgrade	Chris Ahlstrom
Re: Arch Linux upgrade	Chris Ahlstrom
Re: Arch Linux upgrade	candycanearter07
Re: Arch Linux upgrade	Chris Ahlstrom
Re: Arch Linux upgrade	candycanearter07
Re: Arch Linux upgrade	Andrzej Matuch
Re: Arch Linux upgrade	DFS