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* Mis-Delivered PostJeff Gaines
+- Re: Mis-Delivered PostPeter Johnson
`* Re: Mis-Delivered PostRoland Perry
 `* Re: Mis-Delivered PostMartin Brown
  `* Re: Mis-Delivered PostRoland Perry
   `* Re: Mis-Delivered PostSam Plusnet
    `- Re: Mis-Delivered PostRoland Perry

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From: jgnewsid@outlook.com (Jeff Gaines)
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Subject: Mis-Delivered Post
Date: 31 Mar 2024 12:48:44 GMT
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 by: Jeff Gaines - Sun, 31 Mar 2024 12:48 UTC

I am just about to walk a polling card and a Tracked 48 parcel a couple of
roads down to an address where the number is the same as mine and the road
begins with the same letter, new postie syndrome presumably.

What is the position of the proper recipient who hasn't received the
tracked parcel if he/she wanted to follow it up with the sender? As far as
Royal Mail is concerned it's delivered but no signature was required, it
was just put through my letter box?

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
Those are my principles – and if you don’t like them, well, I have others.
(Groucho Marx)

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 by: Peter Johnson - Sun, 31 Mar 2024 14:17 UTC

On 31 Mar 2024 12:48:44 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
wrote:

>
>I am just about to walk a polling card and a Tracked 48 parcel a couple of
>roads down to an address where the number is the same as mine and the road
>begins with the same letter, new postie syndrome presumably.
>
>What is the position of the proper recipient who hasn't received the
>tracked parcel if he/she wanted to follow it up with the sender? As far as
>Royal Mail is concerned it's delivered but no signature was required, it
>was just put through my letter box?

Recipient's complaint would be with the sender. Up to the sender to
decide if he wants to stand the loss and replace the item or take it
up with RM. I would imagine that it would be cheaper for RM to settle
the claim than dispute it..

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Subject: Re: Mis-Delivered Post
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 by: Roland Perry - Mon, 1 Apr 2024 07:44 UTC

In message <xn0ojz9jqjwmisz00z@news.individual.net>, at 12:48:44 on Sun,
31 Mar 2024, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> remarked:
>
>I am just about to walk a polling card and a Tracked 48 parcel a couple
>of roads down to an address where the number is the same as mine and
>the road begins with the same letter, new postie syndrome presumably.
>
>What is the position of the proper recipient who hasn't received the
>tracked parcel if he/she wanted to follow it up with the sender? As far
>as Royal Mail is concerned it's delivered but no signature was
>required, it was just put through my letter box?

Not "just", they'll have taken a photo. Which if it's the wrong door, is
their liability.
--
Roland Perry

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 by: Martin Brown - Mon, 1 Apr 2024 09:35 UTC

On 01/04/2024 08:44, Roland Perry wrote:
> In message <xn0ojz9jqjwmisz00z@news.individual.net>, at 12:48:44 on Sun,
> 31 Mar 2024, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> remarked:
>>
>> I am just about to walk a polling card and a Tracked 48 parcel a
>> couple of roads down to an address where the number is the same as
>> mine and the road begins with the same letter, new postie syndrome
>> presumably.
>>
>> What is the position of the proper recipient who hasn't received the
>> tracked parcel if he/she wanted to follow it up with the sender? As
>> far as Royal Mail is concerned it's delivered but no signature was
>> required, it was just put through my letter box?
>
> Not "just", they'll have taken a photo. Which if it's the wrong door, is
> their liability.

However, if your parcel doesn't arrive you have to inform the sender
that the parcel was not delivered and they will try to prove that it
was. I have had the odd one go astray not my doorstep/not my signature
and one parcel out of three that was stolen from the delivery truck.

His mark "X" with a finger on one of those nasty tablets is useless for
ID since my signature on one of those looks nothing like my real one!

Ever since Covid they have been photographing the parcel on the doorstep
from a distance as they run away before the door is opened.

Our regular postie is pretty good about parcels but if there is a
temporary replacement when he's on holiday all bets are off. Very
difficult for them on a road with no name and unnumbered houses.

--
Martin Brown

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 by: Roland Perry - Wed, 3 Apr 2024 19:41 UTC

In message <uudv5m$2dm7d$1@dont-email.me>, at 10:35:48 on Mon, 1 Apr
2024, Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> remarked:

>>>As far as Royal Mail is concerned it's delivered but no signature
>>>was required, it was just put through my letter box?

>> Not "just", they'll have taken a photo. Which if it's the wrong
>>door, is their liability.
>
>However, if your parcel doesn't arrive you have to inform the sender
>that the parcel was not delivered

Of course, they aren't psychic.

>and they will try to prove that it was. I have had the odd one go
>astray not my doorstep/not my signature and one parcel out of three
>that was stolen from the delivery truck.

Apparently there's been a spate of second division courier drivers
photographing a parcel on the correct doorstep, then picking it up
again and selling the contents down the pub.
--
Roland Perry

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Wed, 10 Apr 2024 19:12 UTC

On 03-Apr-24 20:41, Roland Perry wrote:
> In message <uudv5m$2dm7d$1@dont-email.me>, at 10:35:48 on Mon, 1 Apr
> 2024, Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> remarked:
>
>>>> As  far as Royal Mail is concerned it's delivered but no signature
>>>> was  required, it was just put through my letter box?
>
>>>  Not "just", they'll have taken a photo. Which if it's the wrong
>>> door, is  their liability.
>>
>> However, if your parcel doesn't arrive you have to inform the sender
>> that the parcel was not delivered
>
> Of course, they aren't psychic.
>
>> and they will try to prove that it was. I have had the odd one go
>> astray not my doorstep/not my signature and one parcel out of three
>> that was stolen from the delivery truck.
>
> Apparently there's been a spate of second division courier drivers
> photographing a parcel on the correct doorstep, then picking it up
> again and selling the contents down the pub.

How does one collect information on something like this?

I can believe that it happens, but it does have just a hint of
"This bloke down the pub swears that..."

--
Sam Plusnet

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Subject: Re: Mis-Delivered Post
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 by: Roland Perry - Tue, 16 Apr 2024 10:21 UTC

In message <HwBRN.20101$jC2.3188@fx06.ams1>, at 20:12:39 on Wed, 10 Apr
2024, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> remarked:
>On 03-Apr-24 20:41, Roland Perry wrote:
>> In message <uudv5m$2dm7d$1@dont-email.me>, at 10:35:48 on Mon, 1 Apr
>>2024, Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> remarked:
>>
>>>>> As  far as Royal Mail is concerned it's delivered but no signature
>>>>>was  required, it was just put through my letter box?
>>
>>>>  Not "just", they'll have taken a photo. Which if it's the wrong
>>>>door, is  their liability.
>>>
>>> However, if your parcel doesn't arrive you have to inform the sender
>>>that the parcel was not delivered

>> Of course, they aren't psychic.
>>
>>> and they will try to prove that it was. I have had the odd one go
>>>astray not my doorstep/not my signature and one parcel out of three
>>>that was stolen from the delivery truck.

>> Apparently there's been a spate of second division courier drivers
>>photographing a parcel on the correct doorstep, then picking it up
>> again and selling the contents down the pub.
>
>How does one collect information on something like this?

By complaints from customers with missing parcels, which turn up on
social media. And then the courier company investigates.

>I can believe that it happens, but it does have just a hint of
>"This bloke down the pub swears that..."
>

--
Roland Perry


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