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* Are self driving cars safer?Keithr0
`* Are self driving cars safer?Daryl
 `* Are self driving cars safer?Clocky
  +- Are self driving cars safer?Xeno
  `- Are self driving cars safer?Keithr0

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Are self driving cars safer?

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From: nothing.to.see@here.com.au (Keithr0)
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Subject: Are self driving cars safer?
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2023 15:20:08 +1000
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 by: Keithr0 - Mon, 4 Sep 2023 05:20 UTC

Maybe, if they are a Waymo.

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/09/are-self-driving-cars-already-safer-than-human-drivers/

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From: dwalford@westpine.com.au (Daryl)
Newsgroups: aus.cars
Subject: Re: Are self driving cars safer?
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2023 22:35:29 +1000
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 by: Daryl - Mon, 4 Sep 2023 12:35 UTC

On 4/9/2023 3:20 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
> Maybe, if they are a Waymo.
>
> https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/09/are-self-driving-cars-already-safer-than-human-drivers/
>

I'm not fan of the idea but I can see some practical uses for driver
less vehicles such as for disabled or blind people.
As for their safety I think that they have a long way to go before they
are 100% trustworthy.
Interesting that the promoters of driver less cars think that the
problem is human drivers, if all vehicles were computer controlled they
think that there would be almost no accidents.

--
Daryl

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From: notgonna@happen.com (Clocky)
Newsgroups: aus.cars
Subject: Re: Are self driving cars safer?
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2023 08:39:59 +0800
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 by: Clocky - Tue, 5 Sep 2023 00:39 UTC

On 4/09/2023 8:35 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 4/9/2023 3:20 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>> Maybe, if they are a Waymo.
>>
>> https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/09/are-self-driving-cars-already-safer-than-human-drivers/
>>
>>
>
> I'm not fan of the idea but I can see some practical uses for driver
> less vehicles such as for disabled or blind people.
> As for their safety I think that they have a long way to go before they
> are 100% trustworthy.
> Interesting that the promoters of driver less cars think that the
> problem is human drivers, if all vehicles were computer controlled they
> think that there would be almost no accidents.
>
>

It's not what they 'think', it's what they know. If you think real hard
(I know it will hurt but try) even you might be able to think of
industries where computer control and automation have vastly improved
safety and reduced incidents exactly because the human element has been
reduced or removed.

--
In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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From: xenolith@optusnet.com.au (Xeno)
Newsgroups: aus.cars
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 by: Xeno - Tue, 5 Sep 2023 01:00 UTC

On 5/9/2023 10:39 am, Clocky wrote:
> On 4/09/2023 8:35 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 4/9/2023 3:20 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>> Maybe, if they are a Waymo.
>>>
>>> https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/09/are-self-driving-cars-already-safer-than-human-drivers/
>>>
>>
>> I'm not fan of the idea but I can see some practical uses for driver
>> less vehicles such as for disabled or blind people.
>> As for their safety I think that they have a long way to go before
>> they are 100% trustworthy.
>> Interesting that the promoters of driver less cars think that the
>> problem is human drivers, if all vehicles were computer controlled
>> they think that there would be almost no accidents.
>>
>>
>
> It's not what they 'think', it's what they know. If you think real hard
> (I know it will hurt but try) even you might be able to think of
> industries where computer control and automation have vastly improved
> safety and reduced incidents exactly because the human element has been
> reduced or removed.
>
Just think, if they'd had *machine intelligence* behind the wheel a
couple of decades ago, Darren might not be a cripple today. Certainly
Darren is the epitome of flaws in the human element, grandiosity prime
among them.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: Keithr0 - Tue, 5 Sep 2023 07:50 UTC

On 5/09/2023 10:39 am, Clocky wrote:
> On 4/09/2023 8:35 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 4/9/2023 3:20 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>> Maybe, if they are a Waymo.
>>>
>>> https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/09/are-self-driving-cars-already-safer-than-human-drivers/
>>>
>>
>> I'm not fan of the idea but I can see some practical uses for driver
>> less vehicles such as for disabled or blind people.
>> As for their safety I think that they have a long way to go before
>> they are 100% trustworthy.
>> Interesting that the promoters of driver less cars think that the
>> problem is human drivers, if all vehicles were computer controlled
>> they think that there would be almost no accidents.
>>
>>
>
> It's not what they 'think', it's what they know. If you think real hard
> (I know it will hurt but try) even you might be able to think of
> industries where computer control and automation have vastly improved
> safety and reduced incidents exactly because the human element has been
> reduced or removed.

If you think real hard (I know it will hurt but try) even you might be
able to understand that few if any of them operate in as chaotic
environment as driving through a city.

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